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		<title>By: FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Poor wittle Chuckie just doesn&#8217;t get it, I suppose..</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Poor wittle Chuckie just doesn&#8217;t get it, I suppose..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] using his pseudo-anonymity ( a bit more pseudo then he seemed to know) as a shield behind which to lash out at anyone who rubs him the wrong way. I also decided not to call the cops on him after all, since I was quite confident [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Talk about working both sides of the street &#124; BitsBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Talk about working both sides of the street &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; The violent fantasies of Chuck Adkins</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; The violent fantasies of Chuck Adkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] again obscure blogger Chuck Adkins prays for the violent end of someone he doesn&#8217;t like. Man, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Violent fantasies and psychological projection</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Violent fantasies and psychological projection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. BitsBlog does the screen capture this time before he, yet again, deleted something that reveals what a duplicitous little wretch he is.   Posted in Uncategorized &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: J_Dukehart</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1134</link>
		<dc:creator>J_Dukehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...where to start...

GWB didn&#039;t just veto the stem-cell research in the Oval Office.  He did it surrounded by those Snowflake babies.  That&#039;s how it&#039;s similar to the Frost situation. As I said before, I know he didn&#039;t them talk, he did the talking for them.

So, you think that all poor people should just move out of New York?  Fine, then who&#039;s gonna cook the food, mop the floors etc?  Now, yes, it is true that assets are not looked at and someone could, in theory, have a million in the bank and no job and qualify for sCHIP.  How many people like this do you think there are?

You are correct about the rich man who would not give up his wealth.  So, do you think Matt 19:24 applies only to him?  You go on to say that the ministry of Jesus was funded by rich people, but fail to site a single example, and I have never encounter this &#039;fact&#039; myself.  I do recall Jesus kicking ass on the money-changers in the Temple. Yes, I am fully aware that Jesus advocated charity.  So why not look at supporting sChip as charity administered through the government?  Jesus also said to &#039;render on to Caesar what is  Caesar&#039;s, referring specifically to paying taxes.

Finally, I never said people would die in the streets, even though lack of good preventive health care DOES shorten lives.  And yes, know  all about the Shrinerâ€™s.  Great guys.  But why should they be necessary?

You talk of hyperbole but then you go on to state that &quot;The true goal of the democrats isnâ€™t to insure poor people. Its to eliminate private funding altogether and put us all on a single-payer system in which the government rations care and gets to decide who is worthy of it.&quot;  Really? So you think that the dems just want to establish a system where they can let people they don&#039;t like die in the street.  What makes you think such a thing?  Where else has this happened?  Canada? the UK? Italy? Australia? Do you think that every one of out most important allies are horribly corrupted?  What about the corruption of an HMO that denies care which a doctor has deemed medically necessary?  I am well aware that poor people can go to an ER for free if their condition reaches a critical point, but when they can&#039;t pay,  the rest of us have to, and preventive care is far less expensive than ER care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;where to start&#8230;</p>
<p>GWB didn&#8217;t just veto the stem-cell research in the Oval Office.  He did it surrounded by those Snowflake babies.  That&#8217;s how it&#8217;s similar to the Frost situation. As I said before, I know he didn&#8217;t them talk, he did the talking for them.</p>
<p>So, you think that all poor people should just move out of New York?  Fine, then who&#8217;s gonna cook the food, mop the floors etc?  Now, yes, it is true that assets are not looked at and someone could, in theory, have a million in the bank and no job and qualify for sCHIP.  How many people like this do you think there are?</p>
<p>You are correct about the rich man who would not give up his wealth.  So, do you think Matt 19:24 applies only to him?  You go on to say that the ministry of Jesus was funded by rich people, but fail to site a single example, and I have never encounter this &#8216;fact&#8217; myself.  I do recall Jesus kicking ass on the money-changers in the Temple. Yes, I am fully aware that Jesus advocated charity.  So why not look at supporting sChip as charity administered through the government?  Jesus also said to &#8216;render on to Caesar what is  Caesar&#8217;s, referring specifically to paying taxes.</p>
<p>Finally, I never said people would die in the streets, even though lack of good preventive health care DOES shorten lives.  And yes, know  all about the Shrinerâ€™s.  Great guys.  But why should they be necessary?</p>
<p>You talk of hyperbole but then you go on to state that &#8220;The true goal of the democrats isnâ€™t to insure poor people. Its to eliminate private funding altogether and put us all on a single-payer system in which the government rations care and gets to decide who is worthy of it.&#8221;  Really? So you think that the dems just want to establish a system where they can let people they don&#8217;t like die in the street.  What makes you think such a thing?  Where else has this happened?  Canada? the UK? Italy? Australia? Do you think that every one of out most important allies are horribly corrupted?  What about the corruption of an HMO that denies care which a doctor has deemed medically necessary?  I am well aware that poor people can go to an ER for free if their condition reaches a critical point, but when they can&#8217;t pay,  the rest of us have to, and preventive care is far less expensive than ER care.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Her Real Name</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Her Real Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where to start...

Snowflake babies... I assume you are referring to Bush&#039;s opposition to funding fetal stem cell research. How is this in any way similar to the Frost situation? Furthermore, there is no blocking of privately funded fetal stem cell research and the Bush administration opposes funding it. What&#039;s the big deal? If you want to take your own money and put it into fetal stem cell research, no one is stopping you.

It doesn&#039;t matter where you live, if you earn over $85,000 and are not paying for your own insurance coverage, one of the most important expense you have, your priorities are screwed. Furthermore it is income only and not assets which are considered. Therefore if you have substantial money tied up in mutual funds or other investment vehicles you can still qualify for this program if your salary or wages is below the cap.

As for omitting information... the story of the rich young man is a story of someone who came to Jesus bragging that his entire life he kept the commandments and wanted to know what else he could do to insure his salvation. Jesus told him to give up his wealth and follow Him. The man wouldn&#039;t do it. 

Jesus&#039; ministry depended on wealthy people to support it. Not by force of law, but by bending ones&#039; will to that of God&#039;s. Jesus used the power of persuasion to convince people that his ministry deserved support. He didn&#039;t ask the Roman tax collectors to come by and confiscate their wealth nor audit them to insure they had given &quot;their fair share.&quot; I invite you to not only read Matthew 19 to discover the truth of the story of the rich young man, but I also invite you to read some other parts of the New Testament. You will be shocked to discover that Jesus not only warned that those who didn&#039;t work would starve, but that those who do work should be compelled by their love of the Lord, not the threat of imprisonment, to help the poor. Perhaps you too will begin to see the corruption of a system that relies on coercion to fund it&#039;s social programs instead of true compassion. Impersonal bureaucracies are not compassion.  

Again, you resort to hyperbole by setting up this false dilemma. It is simply not a choice between taxpayer funded healthcare and dying on the street. There are many well-equipped and generous charitable hospitals and foundations set up to be real safety nets for people unable to pay for medical services. I have personal experience with Shriner&#039;s Hospitals who funded over $1,000,000 of burn treatments for a relative of mine. Additionally, this isn&#039;t about eliminating Schip. It&#039;s about opposing its expansion to people who are quite capable of funding their own healthcare. The true goal of the democrats isn&#039;t to insure poor people. Its to eliminate private funding altogether and put us all on a single-payer system in which the government rations care and gets to decide who is worthy of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where to start&#8230;</p>
<p>Snowflake babies&#8230; I assume you are referring to Bush&#8217;s opposition to funding fetal stem cell research. How is this in any way similar to the Frost situation? Furthermore, there is no blocking of privately funded fetal stem cell research and the Bush administration opposes funding it. What&#8217;s the big deal? If you want to take your own money and put it into fetal stem cell research, no one is stopping you.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter where you live, if you earn over $85,000 and are not paying for your own insurance coverage, one of the most important expense you have, your priorities are screwed. Furthermore it is income only and not assets which are considered. Therefore if you have substantial money tied up in mutual funds or other investment vehicles you can still qualify for this program if your salary or wages is below the cap.</p>
<p>As for omitting information&#8230; the story of the rich young man is a story of someone who came to Jesus bragging that his entire life he kept the commandments and wanted to know what else he could do to insure his salvation. Jesus told him to give up his wealth and follow Him. The man wouldn&#8217;t do it. </p>
<p>Jesus&#8217; ministry depended on wealthy people to support it. Not by force of law, but by bending ones&#8217; will to that of God&#8217;s. Jesus used the power of persuasion to convince people that his ministry deserved support. He didn&#8217;t ask the Roman tax collectors to come by and confiscate their wealth nor audit them to insure they had given &#8220;their fair share.&#8221; I invite you to not only read Matthew 19 to discover the truth of the story of the rich young man, but I also invite you to read some other parts of the New Testament. You will be shocked to discover that Jesus not only warned that those who didn&#8217;t work would starve, but that those who do work should be compelled by their love of the Lord, not the threat of imprisonment, to help the poor. Perhaps you too will begin to see the corruption of a system that relies on coercion to fund it&#8217;s social programs instead of true compassion. Impersonal bureaucracies are not compassion.  </p>
<p>Again, you resort to hyperbole by setting up this false dilemma. It is simply not a choice between taxpayer funded healthcare and dying on the street. There are many well-equipped and generous charitable hospitals and foundations set up to be real safety nets for people unable to pay for medical services. I have personal experience with Shriner&#8217;s Hospitals who funded over $1,000,000 of burn treatments for a relative of mine. Additionally, this isn&#8217;t about eliminating Schip. It&#8217;s about opposing its expansion to people who are quite capable of funding their own healthcare. The true goal of the democrats isn&#8217;t to insure poor people. Its to eliminate private funding altogether and put us all on a single-payer system in which the government rations care and gets to decide who is worthy of it.</p>
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		<title>By: J_Dukehart</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>J_Dukehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL

OK, yes, &#039;stalking&#039; might have been too much of a hyperbole but let us remember we are talking about 12 year-old.  Our society wisely grants more protections to children than to adults.  So I&#039;ll correct myself and call Ms. Malkin did &#039;harrasment&#039;. And trespassing, which is still illegal, even if you have published a couple books.    

What about Bush&#039;s &#039;snowflake&#039; babies?  No one on the left when after them. Of course, they didn&#039;t get to speak.  Their job was to stand there and look adorable.

I can&#039;t say I fully support classifying 25yr-olds as &#039;children&#039; but I DO support health care for every American.  Also, the $85,000/year limit was ONLY in New York.  Not including this fact is a lie of omission.

As for the &quot;Underachieving parents&quot; comment.
Suppose they are &#039;underachievers&#039; should Graeme have died, or faced a lifetime of crippling disabilities because his dad isn&#039;t Donny Trump?  It has always really disgusted me that conservatives, even Christians say that anyone who doesn&#039;t have the particular skill set to rake in the big bucks are &#039;underachievers&#039;.  What would Jesus say about that?  Oh, now I remember.

&quot;It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.&quot; (Matthew 19:24)</description>
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<p>OK, yes, &#8217;stalking&#8217; might have been too much of a hyperbole but let us remember we are talking about 12 year-old.  Our society wisely grants more protections to children than to adults.  So I&#8217;ll correct myself and call Ms. Malkin did &#8216;harrasment&#8217;. And trespassing, which is still illegal, even if you have published a couple books.    </p>
<p>What about Bush&#8217;s &#8217;snowflake&#8217; babies?  No one on the left when after them. Of course, they didn&#8217;t get to speak.  Their job was to stand there and look adorable.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I fully support classifying 25yr-olds as &#8216;children&#8217; but I DO support health care for every American.  Also, the $85,000/year limit was ONLY in New York.  Not including this fact is a lie of omission.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;Underachieving parents&#8221; comment.<br />
Suppose they are &#8216;underachievers&#8217; should Graeme have died, or faced a lifetime of crippling disabilities because his dad isn&#8217;t Donny Trump?  It has always really disgusted me that conservatives, even Christians say that anyone who doesn&#8217;t have the particular skill set to rake in the big bucks are &#8216;underachievers&#8217;.  What would Jesus say about that?  Oh, now I remember.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.&#8221; (Matthew 19:24)</p>
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		<title>By: Not Her Real Name</title>
		<link>http://www.freespeech.com/?p=518&#038;cpage=1#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Her Real Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please do not minimize real stalking by calling what Malkin did &quot;stalking.&quot; It is ridiculous that her fact-checking is being characterized by people who just don&#039;t like her or her politics as stalking.

If the Democratic support to vastly expand sCHIP could stand on its own merits, they would not need to resort to hyperbole about what Michelle Malkin did nor would they have to lie about Bush&#039;s veto of the program.

The Democrats use children to refute President Bush because they are too cowardly to debate the merits of classifying children as 25-year old adults and working poor as people who make over $85,000/year. The Democrats exploited this child and his underachieving parents and had him lie to the country. &quot;Families like&quot; his would not be losing their sCHIP benefits with the Bush veto. I&#039;m not saying Graeme Frost lied, but the vile people who fed him those lines sure did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do not minimize real stalking by calling what Malkin did &#8220;stalking.&#8221; It is ridiculous that her fact-checking is being characterized by people who just don&#8217;t like her or her politics as stalking.</p>
<p>If the Democratic support to vastly expand sCHIP could stand on its own merits, they would not need to resort to hyperbole about what Michelle Malkin did nor would they have to lie about Bush&#8217;s veto of the program.</p>
<p>The Democrats use children to refute President Bush because they are too cowardly to debate the merits of classifying children as 25-year old adults and working poor as people who make over $85,000/year. The Democrats exploited this child and his underachieving parents and had him lie to the country. &#8220;Families like&#8221; his would not be losing their sCHIP benefits with the Bush veto. I&#8217;m not saying Graeme Frost lied, but the vile people who fed him those lines sure did.</p>
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		<title>By: J_Dukehart</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I come anywhere CLOSE to agreeing with &#039;kids deserve to die&#039; Chuckie, and will need a hard scrubbing now, BUT....

Michelle Malkinâ€™s didn&#039;t just dare to question the motives of the family, she was stalking a 12 year-old boy.  A press pass is not a licenses to harass a child or trespass on private property.

If the Republican opposition to SCHIP could stand on  it&#039;s own merits, they would not need to resort to such disgusting tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I come anywhere CLOSE to agreeing with &#8216;kids deserve to die&#8217; Chuckie, and will need a hard scrubbing now, BUT&#8230;.</p>
<p>Michelle Malkinâ€™s didn&#8217;t just dare to question the motives of the family, she was stalking a 12 year-old boy.  A press pass is not a licenses to harass a child or trespass on private property.</p>
<p>If the Republican opposition to SCHIP could stand on  it&#8217;s own merits, they would not need to resort to such disgusting tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Laugh of the Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeSpeech.com &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Laugh of the Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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